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Alison Hine about GTR 2002

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"I agree with all the raves, guys. GTR 2002 is fantastic! As I said on r.a.s., this is the first sim in four years that has grabbed my interest the way GPL did. It's awesome!

The tire model is especially amazing. I haven't driven any real-world Ferraris or Vipers, but at 2400 lb my Cobra weighs almost the same as the 1200 kilo cars in this sim. It's only got 225 hp, but I've driven similar Cobras with as much as 600 hp - and recently drove one with a suspension setup virtually identical to mine, but with 350 hp. It's still a little short of horsepower compared to the N-GT cars, and lacks downforce, but it's a reasonably close match.

So far I've spent most of my time in the GT3 Porsche, and it's amazing how similar it feels to the real-world Cobras, especially at the limit. The way the car behaves as you approach and slightly exceed the tires' peak grip is eerily real - as is what happens if you step too far beyond the limit. The way the brakes lock and what the car does if you do, the things that happen if you give it too much throttle, and - most deliciously - what happens when you get the car perfectly balanced on the throttle in midcorner - everything seems so true to life, it's awesome!

Doug told me he spend three months on this aspect of the handling alone - and I think it was time well spent!

A thousand thanks to Doug Arnao and to the entire SimBin Development Team - and to the F1 2002 team at ISI and EA Sports as well! I have a feeling your creation is going to keep me fascinated for a long time to come! "

Interesting little review by Alison Hine. At the Simbin Forum there's an discussion (mind, it's no flamewar!) going on about the differences between GPL and GTR2002. Have a look.

Peter Schreuder

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Registered: Jun 2001
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Anyone have a download link for this mod.

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Here:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/sho...&threadid=52447

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Thanks for the quote. It's interesting to have the opinion of someone who races similar cars to those in GTR2002. Now I just need F12002....

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I agree with Ms Hine. The mod is amazing you MUST try it.

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is it specifically for F1 2002 or will it work for 2001 ?

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Buzz-

F12002 only. But might be worth buying it just to install this mod; it really is as good as advertised.

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I've tried to get it. It's hopeless. If someone can steer me to a link that works I will host it on my commercial website and my FTP server so others can download it.

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Paul

Go to the link below and you will find a dozen servers or more

http://www.filemirrors.com/

Regards Pete

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Is the mod better than GTMod V3 for F12001?

But....all those mod's are good for hotlappers. Someone who mainly likes to do races online, like me, cannot enjoy those mods to the fullest due to lack of proper internet multiplayer mode.

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Originally posted by Vex Is the mod better than GTMod V3 for F12001? But....all those mod's are good for hotlappers. Someone who mainly likes to do races online, like me, cannot enjoy those mods to the fullest due to lack of proper internet multiplayer mode.

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Quote:

Originally posted by Vex But....all those mod's are good for hotlappers. Someone who mainly likes to do races online, like me, cannot enjoy those mods to the fullest due to lack of proper internet multiplayer mode.

Attachment: 996gt3_km_brands.zip
This has been downloaded 16 time(s).

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Just threw the 360 around Monza - I can still hear the Tifosi.

It is good, particularly the audio and I like the dynamics. The Fazz and the Porsche certainly wanted to hang their tails out.

I even tried the Ferrari sound in Legends but alas the lovely growl in the mod wasn't there in GPL.

Maybe a sound guru can take all the files in the mod and make something with that growl or snarl for the 312 in GPL.

Disappointed with the minimalist cockpit though - not much better than Toca 2 and while they fixed not feeling the rough if you get off the track that was in F1 2002 there's now no feeling on the kerbs.

However all in all good fun.
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I agree with ur sig quote 100% Nev

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Sandeep,

Not original, but I can't remember who actually said it. Maybe Moss or Fangio?

Anyone know?
Nev

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Hi,

Can someone tell me if I can run F1 2002 (only for the mod) with a Voodoo 5 5500 ???

I don't want to buy it and then simply look at the box...

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Take a look at GPL foolishness for a Moss quote resembling this:
http://website.lineone.net/~richardn/

(second search for 'moss' on the main page)

Far from a perfect match, but he meant about the same thing

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Is this the bit you were talking about in there Roger?

"Steering is used to present the car, then to compensate for the throttle, because as one opens the throttle, and car starts to slide you may have to use the steering wheel to compensate - to balance the power. I would describe the steering wheel as the presenter and balancer really."

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Originally posted by faut_que_ca_clanche Hi, Can someone tell me if I can run F1 2002 (only for the mod) with a Voodoo 5 5500 ??? I don't want to buy it and then simply look at the box...

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Jean-Marc

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The curbs have really good force feedback for me but I have also put in custom force feedback levels into my PLR file that a guy named No. 1 made for the MOMO steering wheel. You should try it if you have one. This game uses custom force levels for every little thing such as curbs.. and they have been extensively tweaked in the attached file that you can use in your PLR file if you have this wheel.

This is for the Logitech MOMO Force and Racing wheels.

In game Force Feedback strength settings are -100.

No deadzones on any axis.

Speed sensitivity 0 %

Sensitivity on X axis 35 % (steering)
Sensitivity on Z axis 70 % (Throttle)
Sensitivity on RZ axis 70 % (Brakes)

In the Gaming options, on the Logitech MOMO properties,

Overall effects strength 95 %.
Spring effect strength 150 %.
Damper effect strength 0 %.

Last thing, i used DXtweak to get rid off the 50 % deadzone that excists in this game on the brakes and throttle.

Remember that the original DXtweak utility is not designed to work with the MOMO steering wheel. You need to use DXtweak2.

It is not difficult to correctly setup your axis in this program so use your own judgement if you want to do this.

Open the DXtweak program and click on the X/Y box the Z box and the R box.

Enter these values on the X/Y axis, min 0,cen 511,max 1024. (steering)
Enter these values on the Z axis, min 0, cen 128, max 256 (Throttle)
Enter these values on the R axis, min 0, cen 128, max 256 (Brakes)

These are the standard values for the MOMO steering wheel.

If you want to get rid off the big deadzone on the Throttle and brakes change the Z and R axis to the double amount that is in the box you just typed.

So it will look like this.

Values on the Z axis, min 0, cen 256, max 512 (Throttle)
Values on the R axis, min 0, cen 256, max 512 (Brakes)

You now have the full use off the pedal travel in F1 2002.

If you play more racing games you need to bring the Z and R axis back before you play another game because otherwise you be racing with throttle and brakes on for 50 %.

And then use the custom force feedback levels from this section of my PLR file that I'am attaching. Replace the existing force feedback level lines with the contents that are in my attached file. That file to change is located in your /F1 2002/GTR2002save/playername/ folder. The .PLR file contains the force feedback settings at the bottom.

Attachment: f12002momo_controller.txt
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Jon,

Thanks for your detailed reply. Hyper Stimulators don't support force feedback so I'll have to live with it.

Not a real problem in fact the only real disappointment with the mod are the cockpits.

But I love the audio.

Thanks again,
Nev

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Thanks Roger and Michael,

If ever I find the exact source of the quote I'll post the answer.

Cheers
Nev

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sure thing, Nev.

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