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29-03-2004, 06:25

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[ovl] [rl] Texas Motor Speedway 2.0

Here's another one that's taken me entirely too long--Texas Motor Speeday rebuild! A wicked fast 1.5 mile quadoval, you can expect to keep your foot in the throttle a lot here. However, the banking transitions are tricky and you can screw up your lap if you enter or exit the corners incorrectly. The AI aren't perfect, but they're tolerable. Unfortunately, I could not get them any better than this despite a lot of time and effort.

Attached is the track as well as a large group of screenshots, as is my tradition. Enjoy!

EDIT - File updated March 30 2004 = Improved pit AI line. Please redownload and delete previous version.

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29-03-2004, 11:02	#2
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29-03-2004, 13:34	#3
TomMcKay Registered Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United Kindgom Age: 16 Posts: 546 Style: (Default)	Its a nice track, but i think the grass at the S/F line is a bit too narrow, which makes the doglegs not that noticeable when driving round them, and i also dont think the turns are the right shape, but i could be wrong. Its looks really good though, but im not keeping it, as i prefer my version (which i wont release here now, but on my website) Really Good Work Though ! __________________ http://www.mckaygenerally.vze.com My Generally Track Website! In April it will come... The greatest yet trackpack... By Canadiens1160 and TomMcKay... Its Tom Muh-Kie Not Tom Muh-Kay McKay = "Son of Aodh" Aodh = Gaillac word meaning "Fire" McKay = "Son of Fire"

29-03-2004, 22:48

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Its a nice track, but i think the grass at the S/F line is a bit too narrow, which makes the doglegs not that noticeable when driving round them, and i also dont think the turns are the right shape, but i could be wrong. Its looks really good though, but im not keeping it, as i prefer my version

(which i wont release here now, but on my website) Really Good Work Though

Design choice, actually. I plan on eventually doing Atlanta Motor Speedway as well, and I wanted to differentiate between the two tracks. Atlanta's a bit faster, so the corners will be a little more sweeping than Texas's, along with a little bit easier banking transition, but a tighter dogleg and shorter straights.

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29-03-2004, 23:02	#5
Tjeerd Registered User Status: Thinking............ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Netherlands Age: 18 Sex: Male Posts: 135 Style: (Default)	I don't think it is really that much of an improvement on the first one. __________________ 11111 00001 11111 11111 11110 00001 00100 00000 10000 10000 10001 00001 00100 00001 11111 11111 11110 01111 00100 00001 10000 10000 10010 10001 00100 11111 11111 11111 10001 01111 What gets you going? Games? Fun? Rulebooks? Racing? If its got wheel's, and goes fast....than i'm diggin' it.

30-03-2004, 01:39	#6
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30-03-2004, 16:06

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I don't think it is really that much of an improvement on the first one.

Yeah, it is. See?

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30-03-2004, 16:08	#8
Tjeerd Registered User Status: Thinking............ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Netherlands Age: 18 Sex: Male Posts: 135 Style: (Default)	I've got the previous one to.....and when I put next to each other and compare them.....than it aint much better....sorry to say it, but thats my opinion. __________________ 11111 00001 11111 11111 11110 00001 00100 00000 10000 10000 10001 00001 00100 00001 11111 11111 11110 01111 00100 00001 10000 10000 10010 10001 00100 11111 11111 11111 10001 01111 What gets you going? Games? Fun? Rulebooks? Racing? If its got wheel's, and goes fast....than i'm diggin' it.

30-03-2004, 16:42	#9
TomMcKay Registered Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United Kindgom Age: 16 Posts: 546 Style: (Default)	There is an obvious improvement, not so huge, but its there. Just look at the walls, the banking, the infield, the outfield. Not much change but its certainly alot better! __________________ http://www.mckaygenerally.vze.com My Generally Track Website! In April it will come... The greatest yet trackpack... By Canadiens1160 and TomMcKay... Its Tom Muh-Kie Not Tom Muh-Kay McKay = "Son of Aodh" Aodh = Gaillac word meaning "Fire" McKay = "Son of Fire"

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I've got the previous one to.....and when I put next to each other and compare them.....than it aint much better....sorry to say it, but thats my opinion.

Scenery was overhauled quite significantly (it looks better now), and the banking was totally redone from scratch to be much better than before. The AI line was also improved.

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30-03-2004, 21:58

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The AI line was also improved.

I noticed that the AI crashes in the wall in T2 after exiting the pits (Pongo's NASCAR, around 100%). Could you improve that?

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I noticed that the AI crashes in the wall in T2 after exiting the pits (Pongo's NASCAR, around 100%). Could you improve that?

I'll take a look at it--never encountered this problem really. Maybe I changed something by accident in one of the very last saves.

Edit - Yep, I had an outdated pit AI line in there. Changed it, problem is solved I do believe.

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31-03-2004, 01:49	#13
LWing Registered Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 677 Style: (Default)	Thanks for your fast reaction. Much better now. __________________ lwings.vze.com - last update: 08-03-2004 - latest release: Lowe's Motor Speedway (Charlotte)

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Thanks for your fast reaction. Much better now.

No problem. I welcome pointing out (fixable) bugs.

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31-03-2004, 18:28	#15
Hova Registered Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Age: 19 Sex: Male Posts: 1,396 Style: (Default)	No wonder you are the reigning oval king, Dan. Fantastic work here, even for a remake. __________________ http://hova.vze.com - Itz Back!!111!; but still a bit broken :P. Last GR Track Creation: Camau Int'l Oval

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No wonder you are the reigning oval king, Dan. Fantastic work here, even for a remake.

I was unaware that I had that title! Thanks.

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01-04-2004, 03:08	#17
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02-04-2004, 22:53	#19
K3rmiT Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Switzerland Age: 20 Sex: Male Posts: 5,187 Style: (Default)	hmm haven't commented this one, yet! great improvement compared to v1, no doubt. i like to race in lower angles (viewpoint-wise) though, so i would have chosen a lower view angle, i guess that might show off the banking pretty well. a bit strange to me is turn one, i can't seem to find out how far i should cut inside, there is so much space between the inner white line and the inner walls. the bottomline: that's not a track to freak out for, you've made better ovals for sure. but it's a nice one anyway. __________________ k3rmit.vze.com - "The good frog kids go for." Latest release: GeneRally Track - Nazareth Speedway Topic spotlight: That old isometric pirate galleon game! Last edited by K3rmiT : 02-04-2004 at 22:56.

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hmm haven't commented this one, yet! great improvement compared to v1, no doubt. i like to race in lower angles (viewpoint-wise) though, so i would have chosen a lower view angle, i guess that might show off the banking pretty well.

a bit strange to me is turn one, i can't seem to find out how far i should cut inside, there is so much space between the inner white line and the inner walls.
the bottomline: that's not a track to freak out for, you've made better ovals for sure. but it's a nice one anyway.

There's a lot of space so there's room for the pit exit to be cleaner and less disruptive to racing.
Also, I have never really liked Texas Motor Speedway that much (I hate 1.5 mile quadovals other than Charlotte, and the old Atlanta was better) but I felt like it was a track that needed to be made.

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02-04-2004, 23:52	#21
TomMcKay Registered Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United Kindgom Age: 16 Posts: 546 Style: (Default)	In Generally I find quadovals the 2nd best type to race after big superspeedways such as Talladega, but in reality I have to agree they dont produce that close racing. Ive almost got my Texas update ready for release, but its going to be released in my forthcoming "Cookie Cutter" Trackpack! __________________ http://www.mckaygenerally.vze.com My Generally Track Website! In April it will come... The greatest yet trackpack... By Canadiens1160 and TomMcKay... Its Tom Muh-Kie Not Tom Muh-Kay McKay = "Son of Aodh" Aodh = Gaillac word meaning "Fire" McKay = "Son of Fire"

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In Generally I find quadovals the 2nd best type to race after big superspeedways such as Talladega, but in reality I have to agree they dont produce that close racing. Ive almost got my Texas update ready for release, but its going to be released in my forthcoming "Cookie Cutter" Trackpack!

Oh, give me a short oval any day of the week! I think you will all enjoy my upcoming Bristol update...

Looking forward to the Cookie Cutter trackpack. Just don't do Kentucky--that's my track if there's ever been one!

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No problem. I welcome pointing out (fixable) bugs.

Alright, buddy. How about this? Why don't the flat bridges work correctly? Why is my pit crew runnning across and off the map?

J/K, I like the updated version and it will find its place in my gigantic "Ovals" folder. Why not give Martinsville a shot after getting Bristol so spot-on? Pleeeeease? Richmond? Anything short really would be a treat

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I think you will all enjoy my upcoming Bristol update...

i think i'll do, yes, most certainly

- but why does it need to be updated?

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03-04-2004, 01:23	#25
TomMcKay Registered Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United Kindgom Age: 16 Posts: 546 Style: (Default)	I find Bristol quite easy to win at, so im guessing hes going to make the high line on the banking harder to take, forcing you to take the low line. I wont do Kentucky anyway, as there are too many dashed lines! Canadiens - I have a basic Richmond drawn up, but it wont be out for a while, and i also plan to remake martinsiville! __________________ http://www.mckaygenerally.vze.com My Generally Track Website! In April it will come... The greatest yet trackpack... By Canadiens1160 and TomMcKay... Its Tom Muh-Kie Not Tom Muh-Kay McKay = "Son of Aodh" Aodh = Gaillac word meaning "Fire" McKay = "Son of Fire"

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