Grandmaster?

if you could distingush ladder race on VROC screen, by colour or something you would get in more ppl who will race seriously. professional wrecker could appear of course, but generally you would get in more ppl interested in real racing and less of those who disco after few laps anyway. there would be improvement in quality for sure.
even now if you want real race you dont get in monza pickup, right? this could only help ppl to decide which race to enter as the name of the track helps now. you wont get wrecker at nurburgring usually now anyway.
so you are not removing wreckers completely with this system, only improving average quality of races by getting more serious ppl in.
the one who solves problem of wreckers and keeps it open will surely discover purpouse of life soon.

grad,

as far as I have understood Damir, everyone can send the race report to him / submit it to his site, not only the host.

So I guess there could not be a special colour for a "ladder race", because every race can become a "ladder race", if only one driver will send the race report later.


Cheers,
YG

YG,
if damirs proposal is as you say i can only put my understanding of his idea like new idea. it doesnt change anything in the system. only servers should be found who are interested in sending race reports to him and mybe putting "LADDER" under comment on VROC screen.
btw must admit that many details are not crystalclear to me
/and to many others?/ this thread should be making them clear, imo

This is just the begining, guys.

Belive me I have spoken with some "smart" guys, maybe we can expect some nice surprises in the future.

But for now it will be simple (in terms of automatic upload, distinguish it from pick-up etc).

But I will try to make an interesting statistic site, with number of races per driver, no of wins, seconds etc, % of races finished.

I think every one would like to have nice numbers there

Cheers,
Damir.

Oh, Yello your answer is wrong, that will be "just" the second best title.

Think again

Cheers,
Damir.

Where were You lot (Damir & grad) when I posted this ? Mind you, we're currently 2nd (when non-F3 times are discarded), so don't spoil our rank now... And of course, F3 and other minor formulae Ladder would be a great thing. <nudge, nudge, wink, wink>

Actually, Grad's vision of Ladder races is very much what I thought about it.

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Oh, Yello your answer is wrong, that will be "just" the second best title.

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Oh, Yello your answer is wrong, that will be "just" the second best title.

Think again

Cheers,
Damir.

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Yep, I had

"Grand Prix Legend" on my mind

Cheers,
Damir.

Good idea!

I would love it if VROC races counted for something. I love this idea

The "Ladder" web-page is up.

It is really simple for now, but I hope this will have good "echo" in the public which will be my motivation to cointinue the work on this.


Check this link:
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http://free-zg.htnet.hr/gpll/
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Cheers,
Damir.

Bookmarked and reading thru the descriptions.

I think it's about time to make this thread sticky ...


Cheers,
YG

Great work, Damir!

BTW, would it be good to have for example 'Sprint Ladder' (for short races), 'GP Ladder' for full distance GPs, and perhaps another for e.g. half-a-GP-distance races (can one even make such VROC race?) or long races? Those would not be as separate scoring systems, but sub-categories. This means that Ladder would be as Monster Rank, and each category as chassis rank (with difference tat one does not have to participate in all categories to get score and rank)...

Thnx Roland and Wolf.

Your idea about separate ranks sounds good.

Let's wait to se the community response on all of this.


Cheers,
Damir.

Damir, this sounds like a good idea, but I think it will take a lot of work to get going at first. If I understand things, after a race, one of the racers would have to unload some type of report. This would be left to chance and may not alway take place on pick up races. If it was a league race then it could become part of there normal operation to upload the result. This would also be a good way for leagues to rate a drivers abilty.
Good luck

Tom, if one won such race, he would be quite motivated to send the result personally...

BTW, Damir, if it's not too technical for this thread, I'm curious how You handled issue of DNFs (I noticed that some peope who did not finish earned, and some lost different amounts of points).

Thnx Tom for the support.
Maybe it should be a gentleman agreement that the winner post the result.

Wolf, DNF aren't treatet different.
All that matters is drivers position at the end.

Cheers,
Damir.

Damir, your idea is good! A GPL career modus would be a big incentive to do better online races, and it would bring a new fresh breeze into the GPL life, only ... that idea is not so very new: Brian Wong already put much time and efforts into the creation of a scheme for organizing GPL racing activities and he did a complete elaboration of a GPL career modus ... http://blw.net/career.html ... even with impact calculation and the probabilities of injuries, based on the GPLRA scores (IMHO better than the GPL exports, they are very easy to manipulate) ... but sadly there was not so much enthusiasm for that kind of project in the community even though i rate the 'career or ladder' modus higher than the hot lap competitions (hey ... our interests are online RACING and online racing behaviors, no?).
Well ... i wish and i hope that the career modus sees the light of day eventually, for an easier access and use and less complications it should be implemented to the GPL Rank site, IMHO.

Cheerio

Thank you Axel for the support.
In fact, everyone I spoke about the idea like it.

At the start of the thread, I mentioned Brian for inspiring me.

Hey, you have two races in the "Ladder"


Cheers,
Damir

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Wolf, I don't think I will mix two different classes.
But having two different ladders could work, but I am afraid there will be not enough interes in F2 or F3.
Why don't you come over here, in F1 ?
It would be great to race with you ...

What I am thinking about is somehow rewarding drivers driving the slower cars, e.g. if Honda wins over Lotus you get additional points.

Cheers,
Damir.

This is a great idea! I think it would be best if it didn't matter which car you were in, that way leauges could hold ladder races without changing their rules at all. Maybe a separate ranking for each driver/car combo, but all on the same ladder.

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Why don't you come over here, in F1 ?
It would be great to race with you ...

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the idea is great!

and there defenitely WILL be interest in F2 and F3!!!!!